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coming up at 10:00 on "the chris matthews show," will the final deal on the fiscal cliff be the grand bargain that puts the debt issue to bed or just enough to get past the cliff? or could the president get big concessions from john boehner and force liberals to sign off a-o a big inteelgtsment change? much more talk the past week about hillary clinton gearing up to run for president. in a new washington post poll, her numbers like like they would give her a quick route to the nomination. and a strong chance to win the white house for a clinton third term. join me and david ignatius, john harris, michele caruso ka fwrar cabrera for a great round table. here's what's coming up on "meet the press." ma,ñ0ót5 behind?n00o thisu this morning i'll go inside negotiations with two lawmakers close to them, dick durbin of illinois and congressman, one of boehner's top advisers. i spent time on capitol hill this week. one question i'm dealing with this morning, what has actually changed since last summer's debt debacle? my sense is we may be closer to a deal than some of all the publicr7ó(w- l
coming up at 10:00 on "the chris matthews show," will the final deal on the fiscal cliff be the grand bargain that puts the debt issue to bed or just enough to get past the cliff? or could the president get big concessions from john boehner and force liberals to sign off a-o a big inteelgtsment change? much more talk the past week about hillary clinton gearing up to run for president. in a new washington post poll, her numbers like like they would give her a quick route to the...
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cliff talks go sour, that john boehner might have a challenge for his speaker post. do you agree with that? >> i think speaker boehner is extremely strong in his position. he's been very, very smart, including the republican leadership, in his negotiations. while it's just him and president obama, he has them inside the room before he goes and meets with the president, he talks to them and they reflect the views of the entire conference. the key here with the entire deal is that the devil is in the details. once these details come out, it's going to take arm-twisting by both sides. it's going to take calls from the president and democrats. it's going to take the speaker to make sure republican conference members are falling into line and that's where we're going to see, when the rubber meets the road, if this deal can get done. remember, you know, health care reform by the president passed on december 24th. so we do have a president there just going right up to christmas. and if it doesn't happen at christmastime, they'll be coming back before the new year. and i'm a
cliff talks go sour, that john boehner might have a challenge for his speaker post. do you agree with that? >> i think speaker boehner is extremely strong in his position. he's been very, very smart, including the republican leadership, in his negotiations. while it's just him and president obama, he has them inside the room before he goes and meets with the president, he talks to them and they reflect the views of the entire conference. the key here with the entire deal is that the devil...
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fiscal cliff, by closing loopholes in taxes has outraged anti-tax conservatives and when he removed conservatives from the key bathses of the past. >> $800 billion in 10 years that, looks like a tax increase. 238 republicans, including me, took a pledge not to raise taxes. >> they want to send a message to me, to send a message to others that we are not going to tolerate people who are interested in doing what's right, we want to play the same game. if you try to disrupt that, we will knock you off a committee. >> reporter: conservatives were tossed off the house budget committee and others were bounce from the financial services committee. benching conservatives have boehner under fire from conservative group, including the heritage foundation, red state dot-com, freedom works and the heavy hitting club for growth. >> if you keep doing this, we may have to replace you. >> it is bad policy. it is awful politics. and it is -- it will -- it will guaranteed, it will lose him the speakership of the house in 2 years. >> reporter: the republicans lost the majority inuent 06, when they pro
fiscal cliff, by closing loopholes in taxes has outraged anti-tax conservatives and when he removed conservatives from the key bathses of the past. >> $800 billion in 10 years that, looks like a tax increase. 238 republicans, including me, took a pledge not to raise taxes. >> they want to send a message to me, to send a message to others that we are not going to tolerate people who are interested in doing what's right, we want to play the same game. if you try to disrupt that, we...
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. >>> and "outfront" next, just 23 days away from the fiscal cliff and we're still seeing the wheeling and the dealing, behind closed doors, though. one senior republican senator says he has had enough of all the secrecy and he's coming outfront with us to talk about it. plus, some new details in that portland area mall shooting. we're going to give you a first look at the man that police say was responsible. ife. you won't take our future. aids affects us all. even babies. chevron is working to stop mother-to-child transmission. our employees and their families are part of the fight. and we're winning. at chevron nigeria, we haven't had a reported case in 12 years. aids is strong. aids is strong. but we are stronger. and aids... ♪ aids is going to lose. aids is going to lose. ♪ it's lots of things. all waking up. connecting to the global phenomenon we call the internet of everything. ♪ it's going to be amazing. and exciting. and maybe, most remarkably, not that far away. we're going to wake the world up. and watch, with eyes wide, as it gets to work. cisco. tomorrow starts here.
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. ♪ >>> producer john tower, we have our replacements for fiscal cliff. please only read the clean ones. >> jason writes, money boo boo. calvin, pricey precipice. i like this one. allen, monetary manhole. >> monetary manhole. we're getting stripper names and other categories we don't want to get into. great show, everyone. "morning joe" starts right now. > ♪ and i'm free ♪ free falling >>> you know, it's a special time of the year. we've been looking forward to it for months now. and everywhere you go, you can see the twinkle in little children's eyes because they know that in just a few short weeks, ♪ the fiscal cliff is coming to town ♪ merry cliffmas. and with a dramatic name like fiscal cliff, it's got to be exciting. jim? >> the president's asking for $1.6 trillion in revenue. >> $600 billion in tax hikes. >> entitlement reform. >> dividends and capital gains. >> discretionary spending. [ cheers and applause ] >> i'm up. what happened? is it over? [ bleep ] >>> good morning. it's wednesday, december 12th. look at that shot of new york city. >
. ♪ >>> producer john tower, we have our replacements for fiscal cliff. please only read the clean ones. >> jason writes, money boo boo. calvin, pricey precipice. i like this one. allen, monetary manhole. >> monetary manhole. we're getting stripper names and other categories we don't want to get into. great show, everyone. "morning joe" starts right now. > ♪ and i'm free ♪ free falling >>> you know, it's a special time of the year. we've been...
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fiscal cliff. >> gone too soon. a mexican-american singing superstar killed as a small plane plunges into a mountain range. >> just devastated for them. i'm really feeling for them. >> raw and emotional. two radio hosts talk about the family of the nurse who took her own life after getting duped by their prank call. >>> good morning, to you. welcome to "early start." welcome back, mr. berman. >> it is great to be here. i was on vacation for a week. now i'm back. i'm john berman. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east. i am feeling that. but this, they are talking for the first time in over three weeks. president obama and house speaker john boehner looked each other in the eye and actually had a conversation. now that's a really big deal when it comes to the fiscal cliff crisis. because in just 22 days americans face severe tax hikes and spending cuts unless these two leaders can find a way to compromise. now neither side would discuss specifics about their conversation. but after yesterday's white house meet
fiscal cliff. >> gone too soon. a mexican-american singing superstar killed as a small plane plunges into a mountain range. >> just devastated for them. i'm really feeling for them. >> raw and emotional. two radio hosts talk about the family of the nurse who took her own life after getting duped by their prank call. >>> good morning, to you. welcome to "early start." welcome back, mr. berman. >> it is great to be here. i was on vacation for a week. now...
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boehner's loudest conservative critics for a fiscal cliff proposal with $800 billion in tax increases. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves. >> reporter: demint really made a name for himself in recent years as a tea party king maker raising millions to help elect half a dozen like-minded conservatives to the senate. marco rubio, rand paul, johnson and ted cruz. >> i've played a role in stocking the senate with solid conservatives who are younger and brighter and better spokesmen than i am. and so i know i'm leaving the senate better than i found it. >> reporter: but demint also infuriated republican leaders by backing several gop primary candidates who could not win their senate seats. remember christine o'donnell? cnn is told senate republican leader mitch mcconnell was annoyed for backing o'donnell and a couple other losing candidates in 2010 and cost republicans the majority. at the time demint told us he was unapologetic and still is. you're trying to send a message to the gop establishment. >> the gop est
boehner's loudest conservative critics for a fiscal cliff proposal with $800 billion in tax increases. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves. >> reporter: demint really made a name for himself in recent years as a tea party king maker raising millions to help elect half a dozen like-minded conservatives to the senate. marco rubio, rand paul, johnson and ted cruz. >> i've played a role in stocking the...
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. >>> also, the fiscal cliff. it's down to two people. everybody seems to agree, two people get in the room, the president and the leader of the opposition, john boehner, the speaker. they may be closer, some argue, to an agreement than we think. the question is can they sell the deal to their bases, to their fringies, left and right i must say. >>> plus, republicans say they would change after the election and they are. guess what? they're changing the rules. some of them are proposing to republicans in pennsylvania and three other states obama won, they're trying to eliminate the winner-take-all system of awarding electoral votes. that way republicans could win electoral votes in states they lose. >>> new jersey governor chris christie finally meets his idol. the man he's seen in concert more than 100 times. the governor and the boss, bruce springsteen. they're friends now. this is "hardball," the place for politics. from our 4,000 television commercials. yep, there i am with flo. hoo-hoo! watch it! [chuckles] anyhoo, 3 million people s
. >>> also, the fiscal cliff. it's down to two people. everybody seems to agree, two people get in the room, the president and the leader of the opposition, john boehner, the speaker. they may be closer, some argue, to an agreement than we think. the question is can they sell the deal to their bases, to their fringies, left and right i must say. >>> plus, republicans say they would change after the election and they are. guess what? they're changing the rules. some of them are...
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then he sits on the budget committee, so what is john thune's plan to keep us from going over the fiscal cliff? toure, karen finney, and committee, so what is john toure, karen finney, and committee, so what is john you can prevent gas with beano meltaways, or treat gas with these after you get it. now that's like sunblock before or sun burn cream later. oh, somebody out there's saying, now i get it! take beano before and there'll be no gas. that was me... the day i learned i had to start insulin for my type 2 diabetes. me... thinking my only option was the vial and syringe dad used. and me... discovering once-daily levemir® flexpen. flexpen® is prefilled. doesn't need refrigeration for up to 42 days. no drawing from a vial. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. flexpen® is insulin delivery... my way. levemir® (insulin detemir [rdna origin] injection) is a long-acting insulin used to control high blood sugar in adults and children with diabetes and is not recommended to treat diabetic ketoacidosis. do not use levemir® if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. the mos
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and avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. and they only have 19 days left. at the same time, the president's short list for secretary of state is even shorter right now, now that the ambassador susan rice has taken her name out of the running to replace hillary clinton. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and our senior congressional correspondent, dana bash, they are both standing by. jessica, first to you on the obama/b obama/boehner meeting that's going on what are you hearing? >> the meeting began 50 minutes ago in the oval office, and the purpose of this 11th hour meeting is to see if they can find a breakthrough. to see if there is any way that they can reach a deal in the 11th hour, wolf. for the speaker, that would mean essentially if he can get more spending cuts from the president. if there is a way they can achieve entitlement reform and enough of a spending agreement that would make it worth the speaker's while and able to sell it to his base. for the president, it means, will the speaker give on ta
and avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. and they only have 19 days left. at the same time, the president's short list for secretary of state is even shorter right now, now that the ambassador susan rice has taken her name out of the running to replace hillary clinton. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and our senior congressional correspondent, dana bash, they are both standing by. jessica, first to you on the obama/b obama/boehner meeting that's going on what are you hearing?...
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hours after the hush-hush meeting with john boehner about the fiscal cliff. insiders in both parties say the first face-to-face solo meeting in over a year is a sign in private they are making progress but in public the president is not budging. >> i'm in the going to compromise on that principle because i won't have a situation where the wealthiest among us including folks like me keep the tax breaks and we ask the students to pay higher student loans. >> he decided to fire up the labor union base. about a republican pushbe for right to work laws in the state. >> what we shouldn't do, what we shouldn't doing is trying to take away your right to bargain for better wages at work. >> the employees cheered when the president took aim at the republican governor and legislature. >> we are talking about giving you the right to work for less money. >> the president called if union dispute and the fiscal cliff manufacturered crisis as he sounded a pessimistic tone about the possibility of another recession. >> people will spend nearly $200 billion less than they othe
hours after the hush-hush meeting with john boehner about the fiscal cliff. insiders in both parties say the first face-to-face solo meeting in over a year is a sign in private they are making progress but in public the president is not budging. >> i'm in the going to compromise on that principle because i won't have a situation where the wealthiest among us including folks like me keep the tax breaks and we ask the students to pay higher student loans. >> he decided to fire up the...
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now, about the fiscal cliff, john boehner's in town. that's relatively rare for him to stay in town on the weekend. the president was here, but there were meetings yesterday. nancy pelosi came in and out. no one saw her. we thought reading the tea leaves maybe there would be some movement. there was some movement. the president is playing golf. haven't seen hide nor hair of john boehner. >> mike viqueira, thank you, good sir. for more insight into where all of this is headed and whether there could be a breakthrough, i'd like to bring in david jackson, white house reporter for "usa today," and the politics writer for "roll call." appreciate your time. david, what's your sense right now? how far apart are the two sides? >> i think they're closer than a lot of people think because as mike just mentioned the dispute the size of the tax increase on the wealthy. both sides have said they want to negotiate what that rate may be. as far as the republicans are concerned, they want more commitment from the white house for spending cuts particula
now, about the fiscal cliff, john boehner's in town. that's relatively rare for him to stay in town on the weekend. the president was here, but there were meetings yesterday. nancy pelosi came in and out. no one saw her. we thought reading the tea leaves maybe there would be some movement. there was some movement. the president is playing golf. haven't seen hide nor hair of john boehner. >> mike viqueira, thank you, good sir. for more insight into where all of this is headed and whether...
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. >>> and "outfront" next, just 23 days away from the fiscal cliff and we're still seeing the wheeling and the dealing, behind closed doors, though. one senior republican senator says he has had enough of all the secrecy and he's coming outfront with us to talk about it. plus, some new details in that portland area mall shooting. we're going to give you a first look at the man that police say was responsible. they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthrit
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. >>> most americans say our leaders will keep us from falling off the fiscal cliff 20 days from now. that's according to a news pal. 51% say president obama and congress will cut a deal to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. john boehner says he still has serious differences with the president after they exchanged new counteroffers apparently and talked on the phone last night. now some house republicans are vowing to work through the holidays to get the deal done. ed henry is live at the white house. that's a motivator i suppose, lose your christmas. >> normally when there is a holiday like that, you're right. this forces them to come to the table. right now they are still pretty far apart. there was a phone call you last night between the president and the speaker. officials on both sides telling me tonight the call was pretty tense because the bottom line is they are still not finding common ground. you listen to the speaker today, jay carney from the white house podium, they're still saying that they're farther apart on both spending cuts and tax increases. take a list
. >>> most americans say our leaders will keep us from falling off the fiscal cliff 20 days from now. that's according to a news pal. 51% say president obama and congress will cut a deal to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. john boehner says he still has serious differences with the president after they exchanged new counteroffers apparently and talked on the phone last night. now some house republicans are vowing to work through the holidays to get the deal done. ed henry...
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and in just about 15 minutes, democrats will be speaking out about the fiscal cliff saying medicaid should not be subject to cuts. in the past 48 hours since president obama and john boehner met face to face, no details on the discussions have -- have been released. the president said he's willing to compromise but maintains his stance on tax increases for the wealthy. >> we ask the wealthiest americans to pay 2%. i won't comhe promice on -- compromise on that >> reporter: and then an official came on tv and said they could save money by making tax cuts to the food stamp program. >>> aig is selling off most of its profit and the government will end up with a profit of $22 billion, to many people's surprise. aig was rescued in 2008 just before it had to file for bankruptcy. now aig executives say the company may be able to pay a dividends to the shareholders by next summer. >>> we're learning about an up expected new fee that's part of the reforms. it's a temporary $63 per person fee designed to help pay for people with preexisting conditions. it will hit health plans affecting 9 0 million
and in just about 15 minutes, democrats will be speaking out about the fiscal cliff saying medicaid should not be subject to cuts. in the past 48 hours since president obama and john boehner met face to face, no details on the discussions have -- have been released. the president said he's willing to compromise but maintains his stance on tax increases for the wealthy. >> we ask the wealthiest americans to pay 2%. i won't comhe promice on -- compromise on that >> reporter: and then...
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what is john thune's plan to keep us from going over the fiscal cliff. he's coming in. >> brian: first, the aflac trivia question, born on this day in 1932, this actress received an academy award nomination for her lead role in "the exorcist." who is she? be first. you'll get a hug. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh what a relief it is! ♪ [ male announcer ] to learn more about the cold truth and save $1 visit alka-seltzer on facebook. nespresso. where i never have to compromise on anything. ♪ where just one touch creates the perfect coffee. where every cappuccino and latte is onl
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cliff negotiations. cnn has just learned that house republican leaders have sent the white house a counteroffer on tax and entitlement reform. let's bring in our capitol hill senior correspondent dana bash who's got the details. what have we learned? >> we learned that, as you said, the republicans have sent to the white house an offer that they describe as something that is significant with regard to tax and entitlement reform. of course, those are the two tranches that we're talking about here. they are being very -- holding their cards very close to the vest in terms of what specifics these are but apparently it's a counteroffer to something the white house sent to them yesterday. we don't know the details. this is good news for both sides. republicans saying earlier that the white house has to give them more spending cuts. but this is really key because the first thing they have to do, wolf, is get those top line numbers. they are not talking specifics, what kind of tax rates, how much to do. they ar
cliff negotiations. cnn has just learned that house republican leaders have sent the white house a counteroffer on tax and entitlement reform. let's bring in our capitol hill senior correspondent dana bash who's got the details. what have we learned? >> we learned that, as you said, the republicans have sent to the white house an offer that they describe as something that is significant with regard to tax and entitlement reform. of course, those are the two tranches that we're talking...
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this all comes as we get word that the fiscal cliff talks will boil down to what happens between two people and only two people. president obama and john boehner. even all sides of the party are excluded. >>> with 25 days before taxes go up for nearly every single american, what effect will the jobs report have on the fiscal standoff? we'll get live remarks from john boehner who is going to try to use the jobs report to the republican's advantage. representative, let's start with the november jobs report numbers. they look very good, good news overall for the koirnlt tree. but speaker boehner said this, the democrats plan to slow walk our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff instead of engaging in serious talks to avert the cliff, that includes spending cuts and tax reforms the president once supported. the white house has only offered a joke. i understand we have speaker boehner to the microphones. let's take a listen. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. eight days ago secretary geithne
this all comes as we get word that the fiscal cliff talks will boil down to what happens between two people and only two people. president obama and john boehner. even all sides of the party are excluded. >>> with 25 days before taxes go up for nearly every single american, what effect will the jobs report have on the fiscal standoff? we'll get live remarks from john boehner who is going to try to use the jobs report to the republican's advantage. representative, let's start with the...
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the timing is interesting, obviously, just as we're learning that fiscal cliff negotiations are now a party of two, the president and the speaker. the "new york times" reporting that house speaker john boehner wants to speak only to president obama out of public view. though we've just learned that boehner is holding a news conference at 11:00 this morning eastern time. the fight, though, still very public. vice president joe biden is meeting with a middle class family. and yesterday president obama met with a virginia family. tax hikes for the rich are nonnegotiable. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is for families like this one. >> joining me now is barry, msnbc political contributor and editor for grio. hello, guys. >> perry, i'm wondering if these new unemployment numbers add to the president's leverage? >> i think they do. the big thing is the election. but the jobs numbers suggest that the economy is doing well and it cuts
the timing is interesting, obviously, just as we're learning that fiscal cliff negotiations are now a party of two, the president and the speaker. the "new york times" reporting that house speaker john boehner wants to speak only to president obama out of public view. though we've just learned that boehner is holding a news conference at 11:00 this morning eastern time. the fight, though, still very public. vice president joe biden is meeting with a middle class family. and yesterday...
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in firms of the discussions of the fiscal cliff, the white house is focused solely on cuts for top earners. almost no discussion of unemployment insurance and payroll taxes, the farm bill which would include the price of milk and food stamps on a broader level. at what point do these become sticking points in the negotiation? >> reporter: they're going to become sticking points and probably before the end of the year, because remember there are a couple of things going on. if the president gets a deal on rates, republicans are going to be less inclined to go along with some of the other things, like extended unemployment insurance and some sort of extension perhaps in different form of the payroll tax cut. but also to avoid the sequestration, the congress has got to find some way to have cuts in the interim. if they kick the can down the road they have to have month by month cuts. the farm bill, talking $10 billion a month to in effect buy off the sequestration while they negotiate, the farm bill if you take the senate bill, $23 billion in subsidies cut overall, $4 billion as mentioned fro
in firms of the discussions of the fiscal cliff, the white house is focused solely on cuts for top earners. almost no discussion of unemployment insurance and payroll taxes, the farm bill which would include the price of milk and food stamps on a broader level. at what point do these become sticking points in the negotiation? >> reporter: they're going to become sticking points and probably before the end of the year, because remember there are a couple of things going on. if the...
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when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> the house speaker had nothing of substance to say about this week's phone conversation with the president. >> the phone call was pleasant, but was just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president if he's serious to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> boehner says the president is not being a helpful negotiator, even though the president apparently designed the negotiating sessions at boehner's request. according to "the new york times," boehner insisted the talks include only himself and the president of the united states. boehner wanted senate democrats and nancy pelosi out of the discussions. democratic senator dick durbin told the times this is now the speaker and the president working this through. democratic leaders say they are satisfied with the briefings that they continue to receive. nancy pelosi seems perfectly happy putting pressure on the republicans. >> why are we not
when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> the house speaker had nothing of substance to say about this week's phone conversation with the president. >> the phone call was pleasant, but was just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president if he's serious to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> boehner says the...
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president obama and speaker john boehner are meeting one-on-one trying to hash out a fiscal cliff deal before the end of the year. clearly that's the deadline. no other leaders in the room though. just the two of them. there are sources that confirm that staff members on both sides resumed talking on thursday as well. will those talks go anywhere? mr. baer is a managing director of the harbor group and he's with us this morning. thank you for being with with us. >> good morning. >> i'm trying to decide if this meeting is a good idea for a bad idea. on the good side f you move all the noise and the debate and the extra people in the room and bring the two main people to sit down and hash it out, that could be a good thing. >> it is a good sign. that's how this deal is going to be done e. that's how it was done last s summer how we avoided government shutdown last spring. there's a lot of staff work that has to be done. what's speaker boehner's position and can he bring along enough members to pass a big deal. >> that kind of brings me to the downside of keeping everybody out is that you
president obama and speaker john boehner are meeting one-on-one trying to hash out a fiscal cliff deal before the end of the year. clearly that's the deadline. no other leaders in the room though. just the two of them. there are sources that confirm that staff members on both sides resumed talking on thursday as well. will those talks go anywhere? mr. baer is a managing director of the harbor group and he's with us this morning. thank you for being with with us. >> good morning. >>...
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a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. it's time for the president, if he's serious to come back to us with a counter offer. >> the president told a virginia family on thursday he won't back down on taxing the rich. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one. >> the rebels gain on assad raising fears he might use chemical weapons. that was enough to frighten the russians into talking with hillary clinton about a political transition. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process re -- result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> a tragic turn of events in london. the nurse that first transferred that prank call to duchess catherine is found dead. david axelrod shaves it all off on "morning joe." >> joe scarbor
a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. it's time for the president, if he's serious to come back to us with a counter offer. >> the president told a virginia family on thursday he won't back down on taxing the rich. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this...
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fiscal cliff. >>> jenny rivera and others have been killed in a small plane crash. >>> the dallas cowboys win as the clock runs out, just as teammate leaves jail, charged in the death of his long-time friend. >>> good monday morning, i'm sunny hostin, paula faris is off. >> i'm john muller in for rob nelson. >>> we begin this monday with daring u.s. military raid thaet saved the life of an american doctor held hostage in afghanistan. it cost a member of the elite s.e.a.l. team six. >> the president said he and his teammates remind us once more of the selfless service that allows our country to stay strong, safe, and free. >> leon panetta added in this fallen hero and our special operator, americans see the highest ideals of citizenship, sacrifice and service upheld. >> reporter: it happened under the cover of darkness. to rescue this man, philip jose joseph, an american doctor working for morning star development. >> it's team with lots of training on hostage rescues. until you get in there and do it, you don't know what you'll find. >> reporter: two colleagues and the doctor were returns
fiscal cliff. >>> jenny rivera and others have been killed in a small plane crash. >>> the dallas cowboys win as the clock runs out, just as teammate leaves jail, charged in the death of his long-time friend. >>> good monday morning, i'm sunny hostin, paula faris is off. >> i'm john muller in for rob nelson. >>> we begin this monday with daring u.s. military raid thaet saved the life of an american doctor held hostage in afghanistan. it cost a member of...
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the fiscal cliff thing whatever, oh the president and john boehner met face-to-face yesterday. face-to-face -- face to orange-soaked face. right up in there. president got to get a whiff of that. the president. >> obama: all of this, by passing a law that prevents a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income, that means 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses wouldn't see their income taxes go up by a single dime. even the wealthiest americans would get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. families everywhere would enjoy some peace of mind. >> job creators are going to create jobs if they pay taxes. no fair! >> stephanie: all of that came out with just the talking point. >> spittle. >> stephanie: talking points. spittle. >> i work at a tavern. >> stephanie: do you think the president does that pause that calm okay. then he just continues. >> obama: i'm willing to find ways to bring down the cost of healthcare without hurting seniors and other americans who depend on it. and i'm willing to make more entitlement spending cuts on top of the $1 trillion i
the fiscal cliff thing whatever, oh the president and john boehner met face-to-face yesterday. face-to-face -- face to orange-soaked face. right up in there. president got to get a whiff of that. the president. >> obama: all of this, by passing a law that prevents a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income, that means 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses wouldn't see their income taxes go up by a single dime. even the wealthiest americans would get a tax cut on the...
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coming up next. >>> president obama, john boehner, if they reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, maybe it has nothing to do with politics. according to "snl," the president feels really, really bad for the speaker. a clip of that, pretty funny. straight ahead. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh what a relief it is! ♪ [ male announcer ] to learn more about the cold truth and save $1 visit alka-seltzer on facebook. and now -- i got a great new way to get deals. it's called bankamerideals, from bank of america. i choose the cash back deals in my mobile or online banking. i just use my bank of america debit or credit car
coming up next. >>> president obama, john boehner, if they reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, maybe it has nothing to do with politics. according to "snl," the president feels really, really bad for the speaker. a clip of that, pretty funny. straight ahead. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ]...
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jenna: a big topic inside this country is the fiscal cliff. we're minutes away from john boehner and his weekly press conference. the house speaker is expected to address the latest on negotiations in reaching any sort of a dealer who. we're less than three weeks to the january 1st deadline aft great deal of work needs to be done so the legislation can work through all the procedures in congress. mike emanuel is familiar with all that and joins us from capitol hill. any progress today? >> reporter: jenna we'll be waiting to listen to the carefully to the speaker's tone. obviously the key person in terms of negotiations on the republican side. at this point it feels like there is really a lack of trust on both sides. democrats are essentially saying if republicans came forward, gave us more tax revenue, we would have a deal very quickly. republicans act like it's charlie brown and the football essentially saying okay we come forward with the tax revenue and we ask you about spending cuts you are like lucy and you pull the football away and we f
jenna: a big topic inside this country is the fiscal cliff. we're minutes away from john boehner and his weekly press conference. the house speaker is expected to address the latest on negotiations in reaching any sort of a dealer who. we're less than three weeks to the january 1st deadline aft great deal of work needs to be done so the legislation can work through all the procedures in congress. mike emanuel is familiar with all that and joins us from capitol hill. any progress today? >>...
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about the fiscal cliff. no details or word of progress or future talks with just 26 days remaining to get a deal done. another prominent republican is breaking ranks. tom coburn, a leading conservative and fiscal hawk saying he'd prefer raising taxes on the wealthy as a way to raise revenues. >>> a bitter turf war between twitter and instagram elle cl escalating. no one on twitter will be able to see the images posted on instagram. instagram's goal is getting people to post more photos on their site. >>> a man cannot have any more children until he shows proof that he can actually afford those children. 44-year-old corey curtis is charged with failure to support two of the nine children that he's fathered with six women. he owes $85,000 and says he is ready to abide by the judge's order. >> good idea. >> all right. the grammy nominations announced in style with a star-studded concert, jay z and kanye west were among the six artists tied for the most nominations, six apiece. the grammy awards ceremony, music'
about the fiscal cliff. no details or word of progress or future talks with just 26 days remaining to get a deal done. another prominent republican is breaking ranks. tom coburn, a leading conservative and fiscal hawk saying he'd prefer raising taxes on the wealthy as a way to raise revenues. >>> a bitter turf war between twitter and instagram elle cl escalating. no one on twitter will be able to see the images posted on instagram. instagram's goal is getting people to post more photos...
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. >>> house speaker john boehner and president obama met sunday to discuss the fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats have been deadlocked on how to stop tax hikes and spending cuts that are set to kick in at the beginning of the year. >>> dallas cowboys defensive lineman josh brent has been released from jail after posting half a million dollars bail. he is being charged in the death of his teammate and close friend jerry brown. police say he was drunk awhen h wrecked the car that killed brown. >>> morsi rescinded much of the de krch decree. a disputed draft of the constitution for the country. >>> mandy drew is at the new york stock exchange. good morning to you, mandy. >> good morning, natalie. lots of headwind from overseas, political shakeup in italy and sharply slowing down chinese export growth, keeping u.s. traders on edge not to mention the vagaries of the fiscal cliff. markets move with progress or lack of progress as the case may be. the congressional budget office says we could be back in recession the first half of next year if a deal is not reached. those are t
. >>> house speaker john boehner and president obama met sunday to discuss the fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats have been deadlocked on how to stop tax hikes and spending cuts that are set to kick in at the beginning of the year. >>> dallas cowboys defensive lineman josh brent has been released from jail after posting half a million dollars bail. he is being charged in the death of his teammate and close friend jerry brown. police say he was drunk awhen h wrecked the...
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even yesterday's event was never designed to be a fiscal cliff photo-op. there are very few fiscal cliff photo-ops planned this week. it is serious business. they have to come to a framework at the end of this week if they're going to get it written in time and passed in time so they all don't have to spend christmas in washington. joe, realize, whatever deal they agree to, it will be very fragile and it's likely to include more triggers for the end of next year. so they'll agree to some tax reform. if they can't write it, then say the highest tax rate will move from 37 to 39. on entitlements, they'll agree they have to find a certain amount of money and special commission but if they don't agree to it maybe the eligibility age goes automatically up. they'll be sort of sequester triggers to force the action so the deal whatever they come to will be a fragile agreement. >> haley, let's talk about the position republicans are going to be in. you're going to have republican lawmakers elected in the house with huge majorities being told to support tax hikes wh
even yesterday's event was never designed to be a fiscal cliff photo-op. there are very few fiscal cliff photo-ops planned this week. it is serious business. they have to come to a framework at the end of this week if they're going to get it written in time and passed in time so they all don't have to spend christmas in washington. joe, realize, whatever deal they agree to, it will be very fragile and it's likely to include more triggers for the end of next year. so they'll agree to some tax...
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the nation edging closer to the fiscal cliff and with 19 days to go there is no deal, outlining what he calls "deliberate and frank talks with president obama" house speaker john boehner says both sides remain far apart. joining me is cnn analyst roland martin and cnn contributor will cain. to roland first. is this a real stalemate or is this all about posturing? >> it's a real stalemate. obviously republicans who clearly do not want to raise taxes on anybody, the president's made it perfectly clear that i won, i have a mandate and we are not going to continue doing this. also keep in mind the bush cuts contributed to our deficit so it's interesting to hear folks say we should continue them but they didn't say let's cut the deficit when they contribute it according to the cbo. i think the president certainly has more referage on his side and republicans know it and trying to hold out as best as they can. in the end he'll get his wish. >> who is going to blink first? will this is for you. seems like americans aren't interested in lawmakers digging in. look at the poll. this is what a
the nation edging closer to the fiscal cliff and with 19 days to go there is no deal, outlining what he calls "deliberate and frank talks with president obama" house speaker john boehner says both sides remain far apart. joining me is cnn analyst roland martin and cnn contributor will cain. to roland first. is this a real stalemate or is this all about posturing? >> it's a real stalemate. obviously republicans who clearly do not want to raise taxes on anybody, the president's...
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treaty about disability or what they're saying by the fiscal cliff. we're seeing an important shift in their strategy. i think at the end of the day john boehner is going to decide it makes more sense to pass the senate bill, extending the tax cut to 98% saying to the public at large we're not going to deny you that, but we're not going to pass the debt ceiling increase. on that they'll hang tougher seeking to extract something from the white house. >> i agree with half of that. i think they're going to wait for the debt ceiling crisis that they're going to create with their leverage. but it seems to me that they have more incentive to blame the democrats for rising taxes on everybody, and then come back and pass that middle class tax cut. i think we're going to see the sun setting of the bush tax cuts. i just don't see how the tea partyers essentially can do a preemptive basically pre- preemptive tax cuts before the taxes go back up. >> eliot: charles, do you agree with sam? once the tax cuts have expired maybe they pass the tax cut for 98% but then
treaty about disability or what they're saying by the fiscal cliff. we're seeing an important shift in their strategy. i think at the end of the day john boehner is going to decide it makes more sense to pass the senate bill, extending the tax cut to 98% saying to the public at large we're not going to deny you that, but we're not going to pass the debt ceiling increase. on that they'll hang tougher seeking to extract something from the white house. >> i agree with half of that. i think...
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. >>> also, the fiscal cliff. it's down to two people. everybody seems to agree, two people get in the room, the president and the leader of the opposition, john boehner, the speaker. should be interesting. they may be closer, some argue, to an agreement than we think. the question is can they sell the deal to their bases, to their fringies, left and right i must say. >>> plus, republicans say they would change after the election and they are. guess what? they're changing the rules. some of them are proposing to republicans in pennsylvania and three other states obama won, they're trying to eliminate the winner-take-all system of awarding electoral votes. why not? that way republicans could win electoral votes in states they lose. that's a good deal. >>> new jersey governor chris christie finally meets his idol. new jersey's most famous resident, the man he has seen in concert more than 100 times. the governor and the boss, bruce springsteen. they're friends now. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] take dayquil.
. >>> also, the fiscal cliff. it's down to two people. everybody seems to agree, two people get in the room, the president and the leader of the opposition, john boehner, the speaker. should be interesting. they may be closer, some argue, to an agreement than we think. the question is can they sell the deal to their bases, to their fringies, left and right i must say. >>> plus, republicans say they would change after the election and they are. guess what? they're changing the...
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cliff? >> there is no public indication. you talk to some senators as of yesterday who are saying not a lot is going on more privately than publicly but since then but president obama and john boehner spoke wednesday evening and the fact that neither side is leaking anything about that call you can read any way you want. if you are an optimist you might say they are trying to get back on track, they know if they leak each other's conversations that is no good. but it is impossible to say. there are only two people participating in this negotiation and if they choose not to let the information out wisely, a lot of it is speculation. >> host: if there is the end goal, how quickly -- what is that end goal and how quickly could be brought to a vote in the house and senate? >> the goal as it has been consistently described which is to come up with this down payment of some kind of savings for revenues which would be enough to get us past the fiscal cliff, use automatic spending cuts to make sure
cliff? >> there is no public indication. you talk to some senators as of yesterday who are saying not a lot is going on more privately than publicly but since then but president obama and john boehner spoke wednesday evening and the fact that neither side is leaking anything about that call you can read any way you want. if you are an optimist you might say they are trying to get back on track, they know if they leak each other's conversations that is no good. but it is impossible to say....
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." >> as the fiscal cliff pressure goes on, whether john boehner has the votes to get a deal through. they have ads aimed at house republicans. one of boehner's colleagues is not exactly rejecting the idea of challenging him with a gavel. we will dig into that. overseas, north korea fires off another rocket. we will have the latest on what the pentagon and the world is saying about this closed off country's capability to launch a long range rweapon. plus 65 years of history making by our friends at "meet the press." the longest running television show. on the planet. from a deep dive also into the kennedy legacy and the man who laid the foundation for a whole bunch of folks in public life. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, december 12th, 12-12-12. my kids have never been so excited about a date. let's get right to my first read of the morning. one step forward, two steps back. that's probably the best way to describe the fiscal talks between president obama and house speaker john boehner. with christmas less than two weeks away, the white house is faced with the same key q
." >> as the fiscal cliff pressure goes on, whether john boehner has the votes to get a deal through. they have ads aimed at house republicans. one of boehner's colleagues is not exactly rejecting the idea of challenging him with a gavel. we will dig into that. overseas, north korea fires off another rocket. we will have the latest on what the pentagon and the world is saying about this closed off country's capability to launch a long range rweapon. plus 65 years of history making by...
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i want to talk to you about the fiscal cliff. but, first, i want to talk about jim demint. >> sure. >> what is this say about the senate, about the ability of someone like jim demint, an avowed conservative, to accomplish what he wants to accomplish within that chamber, that he felt the need or saw the opportunity to step outside of the chamber? what does that say about the folk like yourself who are still within it? >> well, jim demint is going to continue to be a leader in this country for years to come. specifically on conservative issues. he's going to continue to push for ways to cut spending and to limit the size of government. and i welcome that. he's choosing to do it outside now rather than inside the senate but he's had a huge, positive influence on the senate and we're going to continue to see that for years to come. >> senator, this may seem like a simple question, but i wonder, and a lot of people do is the senate from your perspective, is the senate a difficult place to be if you are someone who comes from executive
i want to talk to you about the fiscal cliff. but, first, i want to talk about jim demint. >> sure. >> what is this say about the senate, about the ability of someone like jim demint, an avowed conservative, to accomplish what he wants to accomplish within that chamber, that he felt the need or saw the opportunity to step outside of the chamber? what does that say about the folk like yourself who are still within it? >> well, jim demint is going to continue to be a leader in...
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he can get john boehner to capitulate or he can say the hell with it, let's go off the fiscal cliff and blame the republicans. >> if he had had the top two percent pay in just a little bit more of their fair share, that would fund the government for only 8. 5 daition. it's not realistic. >> no. it's rubbish, all this. that so called buffett tax, if you implement that on warren buffett and all his pals, it will pay off obama's 2011 deficit in the year 2520 circumstance, in 514 years time, and then we'll need the next half millenium to pay off his 2012 deficit. >> i think the republicans were sent there with a mandate as well as president. obviously the american people voted for the status quo. they voted for divided government. here's the question i have. i would no want them to think os and grand hides and the slem hammer we're robbing them with. if obama wants to take the country off the fiscal cliff, they need to go there. they seem afraid of that. do you see that. >> it's clear from the election that the majority of americans essentially voted for european levels of spending. you can
he can get john boehner to capitulate or he can say the hell with it, let's go off the fiscal cliff and blame the republicans. >> if he had had the top two percent pay in just a little bit more of their fair share, that would fund the government for only 8. 5 daition. it's not realistic. >> no. it's rubbish, all this. that so called buffett tax, if you implement that on warren buffett and all his pals, it will pay off obama's 2011 deficit in the year 2520 circumstance, in 514 years...
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. >>> talks between the white house and republicans over the fiscal cliff are grinding to a hold. house speaker john boehner dealing with division in the gop's ranks to his budget plan. we've got a shanghai surprise. china's mainland markets up over nearly 3% after beijing's new leaders called for economic stability and new business growth. and it looks like more austerity for britain. george osborne getting ready to release his autumn statement. >>> nokia shares a little bit high today. they are teaming up with china mobile, giving access to the world's biggest mobile phone markets. >>> if you just got up, very warm welcome to the start of your global trading day. stocks are on the front foot this morning. this is where we stand with u.s. futures. currently called up around about 30 points higher. the dow down, what, 13 points? the nasdaq called up just under 40 points. the s&p 500 at the moment is called up just over three points. it was down two points yesterday. european stocks doing a little built better. they were as flat as a pancake, as i've been saying. as flat as my panc
. >>> talks between the white house and republicans over the fiscal cliff are grinding to a hold. house speaker john boehner dealing with division in the gop's ranks to his budget plan. we've got a shanghai surprise. china's mainland markets up over nearly 3% after beijing's new leaders called for economic stability and new business growth. and it looks like more austerity for britain. george osborne getting ready to release his autumn statement. >>> nokia shares a little bit...
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fiscal cliff negotiations, don't you think they would proceed a lot faster and smoother if both sides were really dealing with reality? but, you see, the republicans, they simply are not. house speaker john boehner and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell have spent years catering to the base that believes, let's say, president obama's a socialist, and the united nations wants to take your disabled child right out of your home. they have votes to back it up, folks. this pitiful display of most senate republicans on the disability treaty showed once again just how far they are, and how far they are removed from reality. one democratic senator told me yesterday his office was actually getting calls from constituents with disabled children wanting to know if the u.n. would remove their children from their homes. it is manufacturing fear in the lives of americans. sometimes it's just a bald-faced lie about the facts. here's the democratic and republican opening bids on the fiscal cliff. but the revenue side of the republican proposal just doesn't match up with reality. you can't get $80
fiscal cliff negotiations, don't you think they would proceed a lot faster and smoother if both sides were really dealing with reality? but, you see, the republicans, they simply are not. house speaker john boehner and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell have spent years catering to the base that believes, let's say, president obama's a socialist, and the united nations wants to take your disabled child right out of your home. they have votes to back it up, folks. this pitiful display of...
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energy xx1 chairman john shiller weighs in on that, the fiscal cliff and oil prices. that is all next. ashley: first look how the u.s. dollar is moving today. it is well, look at this. it is higher against all these currencies that are down against the u.s. dollar. although the euro essentially flat on the day. we'll be right back. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. >> 20 minutes past the hour right now. hi, everyone, i'm jamie colby. this is your fox news minute. acting director of central intelligence mike morrell is testifying behind closed doors toda
energy xx1 chairman john shiller weighs in on that, the fiscal cliff and oil prices. that is all next. ashley: first look how the u.s. dollar is moving today. it is well, look at this. it is higher against all these currencies that are down against the u.s. dollar. although the euro essentially flat on the day. we'll be right back. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block...